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#127456 - 02/04/09 06:48 AM Can you make tweens for me?
Darkhog


Registered: 01/11/09
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Hello, I need the tweens for door animation. I know that I can do it in Macromedia Flash, but I'm not familiar with this software. Key frames are in this archive:
http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/210143/doors.rar.

Between any two keyframes should be 4 sub-frames. Keyframes are numbered, so you should understand what frame goes first. Of course doors should opening, not fading from one keyframe to another.
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#127459 - 02/04/09 07:12 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Darkhog]
Spike


Registered: 06/30/06
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You need to use an active object and create each frame of animation.

Go to the level editor, right click the main window and select "insert new object"

From the list that comes up select "Active Object"

You will get a green diamond appear on the screen, double click it.

In this window you can edit the animation of the object, just insert each picture into each frame.

When you look at the animation window you will get a good idea of how it works if you are already familiar with the concept of frames.

You are better off doing this yourself, not having people do it for you .

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#127460 - 02/04/09 07:24 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Spike]
Shawn


Registered: 07/31/06
Posts: 283
Loc: Nebraska, USA
Yeah you really can't do tweens in MMF. You have to make a sprite for each frame of animation. You can't just have key frames and have MMF2 fill in the blanks.


Edited by Shawn (02/04/09 07:25 AM)
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#127461 - 02/04/09 07:33 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Shawn]
Darkhog


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I DON'T SPEAK ABOUT THAT! I am not a good graphic and I need somebody to make sub-frames for me. Sorry for shouting/yelling/what-you-want, but this was a misunderstanding. A big misunderstanding.
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#127473 - 02/04/09 09:16 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Darkhog]
Shawn


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Originally Posted By: Darkhog
I DON'T SPEAK ABOUT THAT! I am not a good graphic and I need somebody to make sub-frames for me. Sorry for shouting/yelling/what-you-want, but this was a misunderstanding. A big misunderstanding.



Umm, cool down a bit? Taken directly from wikipedia:

"tweening is the process of generating intermediate frames between two images to give the appearance that the first image evolves smoothly into the second image."

So, your use of the word tween was apparently the wrong word to use, because tweening is exactly what I described in my post above. Tweening in Flash would be having the Flash program automatically generating a movement, by rotation or whatever means to create an animation without having to draw each frame from scratch.

If you all you want is a person to make additional sprites for the animations for you, well you should have said that in the first place.
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#127474 - 02/04/09 09:20 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Darkhog]
Random


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That's a tricky door already.. now there are a few ways I can see this work.
a) someone here has too much time and does it for you.
b) you go to a pixel art forum and get it done by someone there (they're into this kind of stuff ;)).
c) you grab a 3d software. You render the front of the door onto a plane. You switch to ortographic view / use front view and rotate it like 30 up). You make a keyframe animation of the door opening. You render it to pictures and import that to MMF.
d) you play the animation very fast and people won't notice/care it's only 4 frames.

I assume you'll need more than just that door eventually. So I think it's best if you can fix it yourself.
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#127476 - 02/04/09 09:24 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Random]
Random


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Oh and
Originally Posted By: Shawn
So, your use of the word tween was apparently the wrong word to use, because tweening is exactly what I described in my post above.
He used the word correctly. Originally, tweening was done by hand by tween artists in cartoons - they would get like 4 keyframes of a character running and fill in all the 20 or whatever frames in between. That was their job. Years and years before there was a Flash doing it for you. And it's where Flash has the term from. And
Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
"tweening is the process of generating intermediate frames between two images to give the appearance that the first image evolves smoothly into the second image."
does not imply that it is automatic or software generated. A person can generate frames just as well.
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#127478 - 02/04/09 09:28 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Random]
Shawn


Registered: 07/31/06
Posts: 283
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Originally Posted By: Random
Oh and
Originally Posted By: Shawn
So, your use of the word tween was apparently the wrong word to use, because tweening is exactly what I described in my post above.
He used the word correctly. Originally, tweening was done by hand by tween artists in cartoons - they would get like 4 keyframes of a character running and fill in all the 20 or whatever frames in between. That was their job. Years and years before there was a Flash doing it for you. And it's where Flash has the term from. And
Originally Posted By: Wikipedia
"tweening is the process of generating intermediate frames between two images to give the appearance that the first image evolves smoothly into the second image."
does not imply that it is automatic or software generated. A person can generate frames just as well.


Well, I was going by his original post, where he mentioned he knew how to do it in Flash, but not in MMF2. So I assumed he wanted to do something similar. If not, then the original post was a bit misleading.
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#127479 - 02/04/09 09:35 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Shawn]
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Mentioning Flash is misleading indeed, that's true.

Hm.. a tweening extension for stuff like position and rotation could be quite nice though.. one that can handle all the different curves.. fade in / out.. or do we already have that?
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#128444 - 02/11/09 10:27 AM Re: Can you make tweens for me? [Re: Random]
Darkhog


Registered: 01/11/09
Posts: 94
Wait... Dynamite tweened me in flash some else sprite. I will quote his pm to me:
Originally Posted By: "Dynamite"

Ok, I did it!

I re-did it using Macromedia Flash, it looks much smoother now. I hope your game turns out good!
Here's the link: http://www.mediafire.com/?myy1iywvymi


Bolds by me. Maybe this make things clear...
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